In an exclusive interview, Nobel Prize winning economist Paul Krugman explained to ThinkProgress why “coal is not coming back,” despite President Trump’s promises to the contrary. Krugman described Trump’s efforts to “desperately force clean energy to subsidize dirty energy” as “bad economic policy.”
The vast majority of the jobs were lost to technology, Krugman explained in an interview with ThinkProgress, which followed his remarks Tuesday morning at the 2018 Ideas Conference of the Center for American Progress. (Disclosure: ThinkProgress is an editorially independent news site housed at the Center for American Progress where Romm has been a Senior Fellow for the past decade.)
“Coal consumption was flat until about 10 years ago,” Krugman notes, “But coal jobs, most of them disappeared anyway because of instead of sending men with picks underground, we were blowing the tops off mountains. It was mostly technology.”
Starting around 1980, rapid productivity gains driven by technology slashed U.S. coal mine jobs by two thirds. Strangely, we never hear about Ronald Reagan’s war on coal.
In the past decade, fracking hit coal hard, Krugman said, “and now finally clean energy has come along.”
“Solar and wind basically out-compete coal-fired power now even without any public policy to make them do that,” he added. “There are way more people now who are employed in solar than there are in coal.”
“So, coal is not coming back,” he said. “The question should be what can we do for what used to be coal country — not what can we do to bring coal jobs back, because that’s about as practical as bringing back the buggy whip industry.”
The Trump team, however, is focused on the buggy whips, as Energy Secretary Rick Perry comes up with one dubious subsidy plan after another.
Meanwhile, more coal capacity was retired in the first 45 days of 2018 than in any of the first three years of the Obama administration. And top energy-industry analysts project a much faster pace of coal plant retirements in the coming years than they did just a year ago. As one analyst explained last week, “the economics of coal have gotten worse” under Trump.
“At this point, we flipped completely from trying to make arguments for subsidizing clean energy to a situation where the Trump administration and its friends are trying to desperately force clean energy to subsidize dirty energy,” notes Krugman. “And so even if you ignore the environmental impacts, that’s a bad economic policy.”
But, as Krugman points out, you can’t ignore the environmental impacts. “Clean energy is the future. And climate change is real, which means that there is a reason to bring on that future as quickly as possible.”
A rapid switch to clean energy is “not just a jobs issue,” he said, “because the fate of the planet is also on the line.”